[police_reject]

ok my 2003 ss has done this on and off before where you turn the key everything powers up put the car will not crank.
a lil back round on the car it has an aftermarket remote start on it and that wont even start the car
car will start every once in a while and once u get it to start it will keep starting untill the car sits for a prolonged period of time im lost guys i cant wrapp my head around this please help

[Manitcor]

I am going to wager it has something todo with the remote starter. If it is aftermarket and it does not work right anyway I would say to remove it before troubleshooting further.

[police_reject]

i tried that unpluged every thing and still nothing

[Manitcor]

after market remote starters for 00+ cars require both a control and a security bypass module wired into the ignition system.

I would be surprised if one just unplugged easily though I haven't done any of those kinds of installs.

The security system bypass module is usually the culprit as it relies on a timer that might fail or be inconsistent.

Beyond that, standard stuff, is it even trying to crank? Is the starter getting power? Do you hear the fuel pump? Any blown fuses on ign system components?

Have you tried another key if you have a backup?

[Dyonysis]

My 2000 does this occasionally too, and for a while i suspected it might be the factory antitheft system. However, I have so many electrical gremlins at the moment I can't say for sure.

[police_reject]

starter is getting power but doesnt crank you can hear the starter relay click and nothing happens idk what the hell is up fuel pump comes on

i just got it to start idk what and keeps starting but after sitting for a period of time it wont crank agin

[Manitcor]

IIRC, if the starter solenoid is engaging but the engine is not turning over then it would be your starter motor since I don't think the starter solenoid would engage at all if it was a security issue.

[ComradeRedXv2]

Dyonysis, on 01 February 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

gremlins

there's your problem

lol, but, having installed remote starts, look for a fairly thick black wire coming from the box, its the starter kill, should ground out your ignition wire, see if you can find it, if not pm me what kinda setup you have and ill tryn help

[police_reject]

the staarter doesnt engage at all when the car wont start its really starting to blow my mind

[talonted1990]

police_reject, on 01 February 2010 - 11:04 PM, said:

the staarter doesnt engage at all when the car wont start its really starting to blow my mind

I had the same problem with my 03 Impala and it was my factory security system. I had several keys made and I guess after I programming I screwed up the bypass module. When I used the original key it would work fine but if I let it sit a week and used a copied key the security light would come on and it would not start. The keys were programmed and everything but still had the problem.

[police_reject]

so how did you go about solveing the issue?

[talonted1990]

police_reject, on 04 February 2010 - 12:50 AM, said:

so how did you go about solveing the issue?

Replaced the security module and replaced the key switch since they go bad after a while.

[police_reject]

talonted1990, on 04 February 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

police_reject, on 04 February 2010 - 12:50 AM, said:

so how did you go about solveing the issue?

Replaced the security module and replaced the key switch since they go bad after a while.

?
by security module do you mean the BCM (body control module) ?

[talonted1990]

police_reject, on 04 February 2010 - 11:40 AM, said:

talonted1990, on 04 February 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

police_reject, on 04 February 2010 - 12:50 AM, said:

so how did you go about solveing the issue?

Replaced the security module and replaced the key switch since they go bad after a while.

?
by security module do you mean the BCM (body control module) ?

No not the BCM I meant to say pass lock sensor. I had to call one of the Chevy techs at work to get the proper name for the part they replaced on my Impala.

[police_reject]

ok i have been looking for two hours now online for where the "pass lock sensor" is located in a 03 monte carlo and cant find anything on it and i cant even find a replacement part any where either any ideas or does the 03 even have one im assuming they do just cant figure out where ......

[Manitcor]

Thats because you don't have one.

00+ have theft lock and it is an integrated component in your BCM.

[talonted1990]

Manitcor, on 05 February 2010 - 09:13 AM, said:

Thats because you don't have one.

00+ have theft lock and it is an integrated component in your BCM.

So what parts were replaced on my car? I had my car fixed by a Tech at a Chevy dealership and now I am wondering what really happened if there is no sensor for the passloc or theft lock or whatever it is called. I called him to verify what he did and I posted the response I was given.

I called another tech at the Chevy dealership and he said try this:
1. Attempt to start the car, let it stall, but DO NOT turn the key off! Leave it in RUN.
2. Wait 10 minutes or until the Theft Sys light glows steady instead of blinking.
3. Do not turn the key off, but start it immediately.
4. This should reset your Passlock system.

I also found this link that says the same thing basically.
http://www.car-forum...read.php?t=2349

This post has been edited by talonted1990: 05 February 2010 - 09:01 AM

[police_reject]

ok looking in to the remote start a little further i have found that the only wire that has been cut not just tied into is a 22ga wire that goes into the lock cylinder its self not the ignition switch what do the three wires that are wired in to the lock cylinder run to (the wire that is cut runs to the aftermarket pass lock boxs for the remote start then back out to where ever)

[police_reject]

think i have solved the problem. i cut out the after market remote start and every thing seems to be back to the way it should be crossing my finger it all seams like 2 easy of a fix but hopping thats all it was ..... thanks for every ones help and input on my problem