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#1 User is offline   jaybaum96 

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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:01 AM

So im almost ready for a swap, i am picking up a motor and trans in the next few weeks then all i need to find is a harness. (which i have $300 sitting in my bank waiting for a harness to show up haha). But as far as the swap goes, this is what i found what i need. Remember i am swapping it into a 1996 Lumina with a 3100. Also make note - This is obviously copy and pasted from motorswap.com and they have 1997-1999 as the title. Is there any true difference between 1996 and 1997 vehiciles. 1996 is OBD2 so i dont see what the difference could be. I have searched to find other things i would need, and i found bassically everything.

Can anybody see anything i would need additionally to this:

1997-1999 Cutlass/Monte Carlo/Lumina
1. L67 Series II Supercharged Engine from a w-body'ed car.
2. 4T65E HD Transmission
3. 4T65E HD Transmission Lines
4. 4T65E HD Transmission Axles (yes, i know the custom axle i must do)
5. L67 PCM From Donor Car
6. L36 High-Pressure Power Steering Line
7. L67 Downpipe
8. L67 Coolant Hoses (New)
9. Walbro High-Pressure Fuel Pump 255 ltr/hr or greater (stock pump will work of low HP appilcations)
10. Upper and Lower Radiator Hoses
11. Heater core lines
12. Belts



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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:43 AM

I know that this is going to sound like an old man talking but if I were you, I would get the engine and work on it before you do the swap. Like install an NIC cam (which would be awesome), throw some headers on it, put a Gen V on too and some other misc items. Your list looks good to me, the only thing is if you aren't going to do much to the L67 before the swap, I would think that your stock fuel pump will be fine.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 01:59 PM

Im still deciding if i should do a cam and headers or not. I might as well as long as the motor is out but im trying to think money and time wise what will be best. I am going to do a downpipe anyways, so i might just do headers right away too. Which will lead me to a cam and thousands of dollars of genious ideas in performance mods hahaha.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 06:01 PM

Id say it depends when u wanna do the swap. If you have time to build it up first, then do it, but ik we both wanted to be done around spring/summer so id say swap it, then mod. And whos gonna do ur work for headers? cuz if uk someone who can do all that sh*t for free or close to free, lmk hahah
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:03 PM

Chris Kemp has that CV you need, let me know if you are interested.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:22 PM

View Postmrclean, on 09 March 2010 - 05:01 PM, said:

Id say it depends when u wanna do the swap. If you have time to build it up first, then do it, but ik we both wanted to be done around spring/summer so id say swap it, then mod. And whos gonna do ur work for headers? cuz if uk someone who can do all that sh*t for free or close to free, lmk hahah


haha id just take it into auto class for headers The tools and stuff are there to do it :)
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:24 PM

View Post3800power, on 09 March 2010 - 09:03 PM, said:

Chris Kemp has that CV you need, let me know if you are interested.


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Posted 09 March 2010 - 10:54 PM

Replied.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:00 PM

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I know that this is going to sound like an old man talking but if I were you, I would get the engine and work on it before you do the swap. Like install an NIC cam (which would be awesome), throw some headers on it, put a Gen V on too and some other misc items.


I'd probably say the cam would definitely be a good idea if you seriously planned on doing one. Next would be headers (I think they would be just about as easy once the engine is in- ie still a big pain either way). Last would be a gen 5- that is something that could easily be done once everything is in and running.

96 is no different- mine is a 96, and it worked just fine.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:08 PM

View Postbumpin96monte, on 09 March 2010 - 11:00 PM, said:

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I know that this is going to sound like an old man talking but if I were you, I would get the engine and work on it before you do the swap. Like install an NIC cam (which would be awesome), throw some headers on it, put a Gen V on too and some other misc items.


I'd probably say the cam would definitely be a good idea if you seriously planned on doing one. Next would be headers (I think they would be just about as easy once the engine is in- ie still a big pain either way). Last would be a gen 5- that is something that could easily be done once everything is in and running.


Yeah I did the cam/top swap at separate times. Kind of a waste, but a good learning experience both times.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 11:12 PM

View Postbumpin96monte, on 09 March 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:

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I know that this is going to sound like an old man talking but if I were you, I would get the engine and work on it before you do the swap. Like install an NIC cam (which would be awesome), throw some headers on it, put a Gen V on too and some other misc items.


I'd probably say the cam would definitely be a good idea if you seriously planned on doing one. Next would be headers (I think they would be just about as easy once the engine is in- ie still a big pain either way). Last would be a gen 5- that is something that could easily be done once everything is in and running.

96 is no different- mine is a 96, and it worked just fine.


what did you do as far as your harness/pcm?
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Posted 10 March 2010 - 11:36 AM

I have the harness you need AND the custom swap axle. Call me at 651 210 5867.

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 02:14 PM

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what did you do as far as your harness/pcm?


Did you read my L67 swap guide in the tech article section?

I bought a 98 lumina 3800 harness (with a few minor modifications at the C100), and used the donor car pcm- it all drops and plugs right in.
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Posted 10 March 2010 - 03:54 PM

View Postbumpin96monte, on 10 March 2010 - 01:14 PM, said:

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what did you do as far as your harness/pcm?


Did you read my L67 swap guide in the tech article section?

I bought a 98 lumina 3800 harness (with a few minor modifications at the C100), and used the donor car pcm- it all drops and plugs right in.


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Posted 10 March 2010 - 04:55 PM

You gonna call me about those parts or no?
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Posted 10 March 2010 - 05:39 PM

I'm posting a new revision, so wait to look at it until this evening. I've cleared up the axle section more, and fixed some other errors.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 10:39 AM

So someone locally just posted a craigslist ad parting out an ltz that got rear-ended. I emailed them for the engine harness and floor shifter which they want next to nothing for. Any idea how hard it would be to pull the harness without pulling the motor? If its possible what all needs to be removed to get at everything.
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