[deadsnake]

Hey guys, new to this forum, i own a 2004 monte carlo ss intimidator, and I was looking to get some help modding the engine, I have already done everything i wanted visually and sound wise now I want to get into the engine, help me out, what should I start with, where should I get it, how much will it cost???



Thank you so much!

[Nick07]

Search through the other sections or use the search function. Check out this site http://www.zzperformance.com/ and it'll also help to join this club http://www.clubgp.com/. Make sure you look through the "Grand Prix Parts For Sale" section on ClubGP. No offense to CGP but if you need help it's a little more friendly over here usually. Especially for Monte owners.... Also welcome

[me6894]

Need more info. How much are you willing to spend? How fast do you want to go?

Most people start off with a 3.5 setup which could include a 3" downpipe, 180* tstat, AL104s, intake and a tune.

From there you can swap the downpipe out for a set of headers and/or get a set of 1.9 modded rockers. With headers and rockers you should be good to run a 3.4 pulley.

[deadsnake]

Idk really about spending, I just want to take it step by step I have an intake and a 180 degree thermo already. How much would the down, al104s and the tune cost?

[Nick07]

The downpipe you can find used pretty cheap, the plugs just go to the parts store you have around you and ask for Autolite 104's (only a few bucks each, if that), and the tune you can have it tuned by someone else for usually a pretty reasonable price or buy a tuner for like $250 or more. The tuners don't get cheaper than that very often and are getting more scarce

This post has been edited by Nick07: 22 March 2010 - 07:11 PM

[deadsnake]

where can I find these things, im fairly new to this so I kinda need it spoon fed lol

[me6894]

deadsnake, on 22 March 2010 - 08:24 PM, said:

where can I find these things, im fairly new to this so I kinda need it spoon fed lol

Where do you live? I'm in Ohio if you want a tune.

zzperformance.com has everything you need, you just need to know what to buy when and why. We really need a price range to recommend things to you. If money doesn't matter then go right to headers/xpz cam, or forget s/c altogether and go turbo.

[deadsnake]

I live in Illinois, north Illinois to be more specific, I pu about 100$ each month away for the car, thanks lol but thats a long drive! atleast 7 hours lol, can I find someone locally? So what do I get from ZZP?

[me6894]

deadsnake, on 22 March 2010 - 08:42 PM, said:

I live in Illinois, north Illinois to be more specific, I pu about 100$ each month away for the car, thanks lol but thats a long drive! atleast 7 hours lol, can I find someone locally? So what do I get from ZZP?

PRJ is in Indiana IIRC, not sure how far of a drive that is but he knows his stuff and can tune you. prjperformance.com is his site.

As for parts, do you want a downpipe (120ish) or go right to headers (350ish)? Headers will have a bigger gain, more potential, and you won't have to upgrade later like you would a downpipe.

Here's a prepared package from zzp if you just want a downpipe. It has basically all the parts you'll need to run a 3.5 pulley safely. The intake you could make yourself for a lot cheaper if you wanted to. If you want to go straight to headers then I wouldn't order this package, but you can use it as a list for all the other parts you'll need.

[deadsnake]

I will probably go with the downpipe, how much would that cost for labor?

[me6894]

oops forgot the link for the package deals
https://www.zzperfor...ucts.php?id=136

and here's the downpipe by itself
https://www.zzperfor...d=551&catid=110

you'll want to choose the 3" bolt in from the dropdown menu. If you want stainless or a catalytic converter it will be extra.

Its really not hard to install yourself, just 4 bolts, but a shop would probably charge an hour of labor.

[cak387]

You could always skip the downpipe and go for some headers. SSAC makes some good headers, and I know I recommend them, and I know a few others run them on here like Matt. After that, drop pulleys, AL104's, and a tune. PRJ lives in Morristown, IN and is pretty much the god when it comes to 3800 tuning. You could always get rockers or a cam, depending on how far you want to go also.

Edit: Post pics of your car!!! I think we have 4-5 intimidator's on here now.

This post has been edited by cak387: 22 March 2010 - 10:15 PM